Giuliani: 'I want you to hear' Cohen tapes

Trump Org CFO subpoenaed in Cohen probe

Anthony Scaramucci said Sunday he accepts President Donald Trump "at his word" that he didn't know beforehand about a meeting between his oldest son and Russians promising dirt on campaign rival Hillary Clinton, and he doesn't understand why the president's former attorney, Michael Cohen, would have leaked something like that.

Trump's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., along with Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and senior campaign aide Paul Manafort took part in the meeting with Nataliya Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer and acknowledged Kremlin informant.

The Michael Cohen tape, aired by CNN's Chris Cuomo, has very much put in play who said what to whom about a possible payoff to a former Playboy model and Rudy Giuliani's previous claim that the tape would vindicate the president. It comes on the heels of a report by CNN Thursday evening that Cohen has said he is willing to testify that then-candidate Trump knew in advance about the 2016 meeting in Trump Tower.

When asked if Trump would be willing to talk about the Russian meeting with special counsel Robert Mueller, Giuliani said, "I still have my doubts about the people around Mueller" and said the president's team remained undecided about whether to agree to a sit-down conversation with federal investigators about that topic and others.

Giuliani told Fox News there are additional "Cohen tapes", but he said the now-public Trump-Cohen tape is the only one involving the president.

After announcing that Trump's legal team was investigating the audio recording of Cohen and Trump to determine whether or not it had been doctored, an anonymous source associated with Cohen blatantly ridiculed Giuliani, calling him "unhinged" and accused him of lying.

Avenatti isn't buying any of that, and on Thursday, he demanded that Cohen and President Trump "release the information to the American people now, enough with the games", he said. "He's been lying all week, or for two weeks - he's been lying for years", Giuliani told CNN. He also dismissed Cohen's claims about Trump's knowledge of the June 2016 meeting as "flat out untrue".




But Lanny Davis, Cohen's lawyer, told Cuomo that "Richard Nixon couldn't spin the tape that did him in ..."

Giuliani told CBS's "Face the Nation" that beyond the McDougal-related recording, "there are 12 others, maybe 11 or 12 others out of the 183, in which the president is discussed at any length by Cohen, mostly with reporters". "They definitely don't want Trump!"

"We don't violate these rules", Giuliani said.

The tape, first obtained by CNN, was secretly recorded by the president's former attorney, Michael Cohen.

But Davis said the president's team "forfeited all confidentiality" when Giuliani talked publicly last week about the tape.

"Obviously, if I knew that I never would have said he was a reputable lawyer, I'd have said he was a scoundrel". "And, frankly, by the time anyone was aware of it, which was summer of this year, as I stated earlier, I wouldn't have wanted to get him involved in it because it had nothing to do with him".

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